Using a Mouse to Catch a Cat

(Editor's Note: outdoor editor Richard Simms recently returned from a 10-day road trip. Of course fishing was high on the agenda. This is the first of a series on fishing trips he experienced. Perhaps you might want to add them to your Bucket List as well.)

Outdoor writer Butch Thurmond from Slidell, Louisiana does battle with the biggest catfish of his life on a recent trip to South Carolina's Santee Cooper Country, fishing with Santee Cajun Guide Service. (Photo: Richard Simms)
Sunrise on Lake Marion near Santee, South Carolina. Dead tree trunks protrude from the water in areas where timber was left standing when the lake was created. (Photo: Richard Simms)

SANTEE, South Carolina – The sun was just peeking over the horizon as Capt. Boudreaux steered us across the massive Lake Marion near Santee, South Carolina. Seated forward of Capt. Boudreaux was his wife of 47 years, Capt. Barbara “Mouse” Witherell watching carefully as her husband expertly navigated around standing timber and logs poking above the surface. I could only imagine what lay underneath.

Striped bass were once the mainstay of fishermen and guides on Lake Marion. However they saw a decline during a longterm drought. The Witherell’s say, however, the striped bass are on the rebound and they catch them regularly on their guide trips. (Photo: Richard Simms)

One thing that definitely lay beneath was big blue catfish, our target species for the day, along with some healthy striped bass. After a 20-minute ride, drift socks were set out to keep the roomy pontoon boat perpendicular to the breeze. Mouse and Boudreaux, owners/guides with Santee Cajun Guide Service, had seven catfish rods dragging cut bait across the bottom along with a pair of rods pulling live bait, hoping for bonus stripers.

The first rod to go down was, indeed, a striper that peeled line from the reel as it tried in vain to reach the opposite side of the 110,000 acre lake. The fish fell perfectly into the strict 23-25 inch size limit and went into the cooler for dinner.


Decades ago Lake Marion was one of the most well-known striped bass hotspots in the entire nation. In fact the very first striped bass stocked in Tennessee came from the same South Carolina hatcheries that stocked Lake Marion. Changes in weather and other environmental influences, however, knocked the hot striper fishing in the head and many area guides turned to catfish.

Unlike the Tennessee River, blue catfish did not occur naturally in Lake Marion. They were stocked here in 1964 but have since become a self-renewing resource. (Photo: Richard Simms)

Blue catfish were stocked in Lake Marion in 1964. The fish took a liking to the great forage base along with the huge expanses of timber left standing in the lake and have since become a self-renewing resource for anglers. Fifty-pound blues are not an everyday occurrence but they are not unheard of either. South Carolina’s state record blue cat (113.8 lbs.) came from Lake Moultrie, the next lake downstream from Lake Marion in the Santee Cooper chain.

Although other Santee Cooper Country guides now pursue catfish, Capt. Boudreaux smiled when he said, “We were catfishing before catfishing was cool.”


Professional catfish guide, Capt. Barbara “Mouse” Witherell, with Santee Cajun Guide Service poses proudly with a healthy Lake Marion blue catfish. (Photo: Richard Simms)

It was actually Mouse who created Santee Cajun Guide Service. Mouse, 65, is proclaimed as one of the few, if not only, fulltime female fishing guides in the region. She carried her first clients out in 1998.

“Boudreaux said my hobby was getting too expensive,” said Mouse. “He was on the road traveling all over the world working on equipment while I was home fishing. He came home one day and said my hobby was getting too expensive. I needed to make some money at it. So here I am.”

After she went into business she learned that other guides on the lake had a pool going, betting on how long she would last.

“The longest bet was eighteen months,” said Mouse. “That was twenty years ago.”

In 2005 Boudreaux tired of life on the road and started guiding alongside his wife.

“I hired him,” said Mouse with a wry grin.

It was about that time when a catfish rod tip snapped downward and my friend, Butch Thurmond, was battling the biggest catfish of his life.

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Posted by Richard Simms on Tuesday, October 2, 2018

“That was fun. I’ve never caught a catfish like that one,” Thurmond exclaimed with a broad smile as Boudreaux and Mouse heaved the 32-pound blue over the side.


Capt. Barbara “Mouse” Witherell and her husband, Capt. Boudreaux Witherell, pose proudly with a 32-pound blue catfish. While not as common as they once were, blue cats exceeding 50-pound are not unusual on Lake Marion. (Photo: Richard Simms)

Mouse stands about 5 feet tall, maybe. But that is just part of the reason for her nickname.

“When Boudreaux and I started dating I wore a size three children’s shoe,” she said. “I’ve got pointed ears, I had mouse brown hair and a mousy attitude so he called me Mouse. My grandkids even call me Maw Maw Mouse. Even at the bank they call me Mouse. Nobody knows my real name.”

If you forget her name, or what she does, just refer to the artistic catfish and mouse tattoos on her calves.

If you ever forget Capt. Barbara Witherell’s nickname or what she does for a living, simply refer to the tattoos on her legs for a hint. (Photo: Richard Simms)


Unlike lakes in our area, Lake Marion sees very little fishing pressure. In an entire day fishing we saw fewer than six other boats on the entire 110,000 lake. (Photo: Richard Simms)

With 315 miles of shoreline reaching into five different counties, Lake Marion is the largest lake in South Carolina. Keeping up with the catfishing hotspots requires lots of time on the water. During peak season, Mouse, Boudreaux and even their son, Scott, are all on the water in separate boats with clients. The Witherells are obviously passionate about their chosen profession.

“Just seeing people catch fish that have never caught fish before in their lives,” said Mouse. “Or seeing someone catch the biggest fish of their life. I love the kids especially, the look on their face and the look in their eyes. And of course the parents are so excited watching their kids catch a fish.”

The Witherells put their money where their mouth is. At Santee Cajun Guide Service children under 16 years old fish for free.